Hiltons Revisited
If you don't mind, I'd like to go back and critique my play in the hand I posted yesterday. I'm going back even if you do mind - it's my blog.
From a pure results perspective it doesn't get much better than that hand in limit hold'em (the pot was around 40 BB). Still, in thinking back on the hand throughout the day yesterday, I started to feel all scaly and slimy. I'd be interested to hear what y'all think about the hand.
Pre-Flop - I really like the pre-flop play. I raised in EP with a big hand, both to limit the field (didn't work) and to build the pot (worked like a charm). The re-raise and cap behind me concerned me, but there's no way that I don't call here.
Flop - Here is where I start to have problems. The flop is king high, and I KNOW that one or both of the raisers had at least a king. Given the pre-flop action, I had to know that one of the players had AA, KK or possibly AK. Again, I like the early position raise. With the raise I hoped to isolate, or at the very least get a couple of players out of the hand. Plus the raise could buy me information that I couldn't get with a call. So far, so good.
The re-raise and cap on the flop behind me gave me all the information that I was looking for. This should have been a clear fold when it came back around to me. Instead, I was weak, stubborn, and couldn't let go of my QQ, though it was obviously no good.
Turn - Though I don't like the fact that I made it to the turn, I think my play there was OK. The T on the turn tremendously increased the value of my hand. I now had second pair, plus a big straight draw. I had four outs to the nuts (any ace), plus six more outs to improve (two queens + four nines). The pot was gigantic, and I had the odds to call along.
River - The river obviously played itself in this hand - to paraphrase Jordan, it's easy with the nuts. On this street, the donkey play reverted to my two opponents that were willing to keep raising with sets when there were four cards to a big straight on the board.
So that's how I see it. Good play that turned into fishy play that turned back into good play only after a runner-runner suckout. Let me know what you think.
From a pure results perspective it doesn't get much better than that hand in limit hold'em (the pot was around 40 BB). Still, in thinking back on the hand throughout the day yesterday, I started to feel all scaly and slimy. I'd be interested to hear what y'all think about the hand.
Pre-Flop - I really like the pre-flop play. I raised in EP with a big hand, both to limit the field (didn't work) and to build the pot (worked like a charm). The re-raise and cap behind me concerned me, but there's no way that I don't call here.
Flop - Here is where I start to have problems. The flop is king high, and I KNOW that one or both of the raisers had at least a king. Given the pre-flop action, I had to know that one of the players had AA, KK or possibly AK. Again, I like the early position raise. With the raise I hoped to isolate, or at the very least get a couple of players out of the hand. Plus the raise could buy me information that I couldn't get with a call. So far, so good.
The re-raise and cap on the flop behind me gave me all the information that I was looking for. This should have been a clear fold when it came back around to me. Instead, I was weak, stubborn, and couldn't let go of my QQ, though it was obviously no good.
Turn - Though I don't like the fact that I made it to the turn, I think my play there was OK. The T on the turn tremendously increased the value of my hand. I now had second pair, plus a big straight draw. I had four outs to the nuts (any ace), plus six more outs to improve (two queens + four nines). The pot was gigantic, and I had the odds to call along.
River - The river obviously played itself in this hand - to paraphrase Jordan, it's easy with the nuts. On this street, the donkey play reverted to my two opponents that were willing to keep raising with sets when there were four cards to a big straight on the board.
So that's how I see it. Good play that turned into fishy play that turned back into good play only after a runner-runner suckout. Let me know what you think.
posted by Chris at 10:55 AM
3 Comments:
I think you played the way most people play in limit. You had a good hand, you had the odds to keep fishing and it paid off. Good for you :)
I don't play a lot of limit poker, but I really don't think that flop call was EV. I'm sure you knew that though :)
Yeah - I tend to agree with your analysis. Good Preflop, dreadful flop play, decent but not great turn play and the river was easy.
Good results, but the next 75 times you're in that position it likely won't work out that way. If you bet for information, you do yourself a disservice when you don't use that informaton.
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